drico
Station Inspector
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Post by drico on Oct 8, 2016 10:24:22 GMT
This weekend 8/9 October 2016, the bay road at Mansion house is being removed, points plain lined, platform 2 out of use, also the substation gap on the eastbound road moved from the west end moved to the east end.
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Post by dave1 on Oct 8, 2016 12:54:55 GMT
That is another reversing point lost then.
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Post by District observer on Nov 13, 2016 20:14:59 GMT
It was only ever available to S stock as an emergency move as they decided not to put all the bits in.
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Post by dave1 on Nov 14, 2016 8:47:03 GMT
I have read somewhere that the first S stock to use the bay road did it in passenger service.
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Jim
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Post by Jim on Jan 19, 2017 14:08:47 GMT
The platform monitors are still on in the bay road and the hydraulic buffer is still in place even though it went 3 months ago.
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drico
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Post by drico on Jan 20, 2017 16:21:10 GMT
The platform monitors are still on in the bay road and the hydraulic buffer is still in place even though it went 3 months ago. It's not VFM to remove monitors & remove power from just one disused platform at Mansion House , It must wait until all D78 stock is removed from the District Line.
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Post by dave1 on Jan 21, 2017 9:20:25 GMT
Why do they have to wait until all the D stock is gone before removing from the former bay road, there is no track is there so what is the reason they could just turn them off at least. I don't think they are alter the track layout at the east end of the station so there is no reason to remove the buffer stop.
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Post by railtechnician on Jan 23, 2017 13:20:54 GMT
Why do they have to wait until all the D stock is gone before removing from the former bay road, there is no track is there so what is the reason they could just turn them off at least. I don't think they are alter the track layout at the east end of the station so there is no reason to remove the buffer stop. You have to understand LU mentality! I have no doubt whatsoever that much redundant equipment is still to be found all over the network, long out of service but still powered up like the old depot shunters radio systems and depot loudspeaker systems at Northfields and Cockfosters depots, it was at least a decade out of service when I discovered it in the late 1990s and still in situ when I retired. I have no idea if the shunters cabins are extant, they were all due to be replaced, mind you at Northfields the replacements were built before I retired and partially equipped with comms facilities before being abandoned for use as security huts because building plans for the depot were to be changed! If those cabins are extant I expect that the old valve amplifiers for the depot loudspeaker systems are still glowing. Unless it is essential to remove something it will remain in situ in the hope that some later project will recover what is redundant. This is generally because even if money was provided for recovery at the time it will probably have been 'spent' such is the nature of the accounting in the internal market where the budget is divied up amongst the various groups, estimating, planning, drawing office, installation etc. Inefficiency means that money is often spent on 'lost time' and 'ineffective work', 'unplanned overtime' etc etc. In terms of late recovery I picked up a number of such projects e.g. the recovery of the Victoria line Passenger Information Point equiipment, the platform PIPs were covered up years before I was upgrading the station to station telephone systems and other work on the line so I was asked to recover all the old PIP equipment. On the old Street tunnel relining of the 1990s I recovered all the old PILC telephone cables made redundant in the first tunnel relining of the 1960s. There are other such projects where I cleared up the redundant equipment years after it was taken out of service. Perhaps my largest single clean up project was Earls Court control room circa 2002/3 where I removed / recovered many long redundant systems and cabling to make way for new systems, much of that had been out of service for a decade or more, everyone was afraid to touch it including external contractors who were invited to tender for the work! I freed up a large part of one of the relay rooms in the process providing valuable space for new equipment. I could have removed much more, there was still plenty to get rid of when my engineering manager suggested that I had done enough to make room for the then known new projects, basically all controllers desk projects. In an earlier SPT project there I cleaned up the redundant signal operator desk units and tidied up the wiring behind the signal diagram, the original works having been undertaken many years before. Apart from cost issues people are afraid to take responsibility and so like to leave old kit in situ as a backup if the new stuff fails. That is not often relevant but sometimes it can be so if possible managers who aren't very good at decision making will not only not have the courage of their convictions but probably don't have any firm convictions either. I used to say to them "for God's sake make a decision and stick to it" but even the installation engineering manager (head of department) would walk away deferring to his executive assistant or the installation supervisor. Indeed when I was about to start changing out the controllers desks at Cobourg Street in the 1980s the Installation Manager decided to come and see how I would tackle the task as it was the very first site for the replacement of the old brown GRP desks which were a toxic hazard in the event of a fire. He got the collywobbles after the shift supply engineer got wind of what we were up to (changing out the Northern Line tunnel telephone desk) and suggested all the substations had to be manned. He quickly walked away with our EA and my supervisor in tow after I gave him a time by which I needed his 'go' or I would not be able to guarantee handing the desk back to the controller in good time on Sunday morning. His last instruction was to pack up and have an early night and plan to do the job the following Saturday. That's what I did, with no entourage looking over my shoulder, I had the responsibility all to myself and the job went like a dream as did changing out the next 10 desks with little or no hassle in the subsequent overtime shifts!
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