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Mar 5, 2013 13:49:56 GMT
Post by Zippy on Mar 5, 2013 13:49:56 GMT
When the North London line was taken over there was a lot of noise about DOO over all of the Overground.
I see that they still have guards. Was there a technical reason which meant guards couldn't be dispensed with?
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Mar 5, 2013 15:40:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 15:40:16 GMT
From what I was told a few nights ago, software issues with the DOO cameras. If one camera fails or doesn't show a good enough imagine on the in cab screens the train is immediately taken out of service. I'm sure that there are more reasons for this issue.
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Mar 6, 2013 13:17:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 13:17:52 GMT
Are the East/South London Line routes DOO?
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Mar 6, 2013 13:41:49 GMT
Post by julo on Mar 6, 2013 13:41:49 GMT
Are the East/South London Line routes DOO? Yes
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Mar 6, 2013 20:18:53 GMT
Post by Zippy on Mar 6, 2013 20:18:53 GMT
Which throws out the theory of the cameras as all the trains are the same.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:36:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 20:36:20 GMT
True but you can restrict units to certain routes. Like if there is a unit with a pan/VCB fault it can be restricted to the DC routes only. Like stated before I'm sure there are bigger reasons as to why guards are still around. As much as I like DOO, i do prefer to see a guard on board services. Always rather handy if there is disruption.
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Post by Zippy on Mar 6, 2013 22:35:04 GMT
I agree, but elsewhere you are telling us how wonderful driverless trains will be
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Mar 9, 2013 14:37:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2013 14:37:49 GMT
Har har. You old hands eh?
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Post by Nortube on Mar 9, 2013 17:56:02 GMT
There should always be Guards on trains - who else is going to make the driver's tea?
Remember the good old days when the Guard would make the tea and hand the can to the driver. The tea would brew by the time the driver had changed ends and got in the cab. He would take out what he wanted, then stop short at the next station and leave the can out on the platform at the Guard's end for when the Guard opened the doors.
No Guards and the free drinks machines for the drivers finally did away with the tea cans.
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Mar 9, 2013 18:47:28 GMT
Post by julo on Mar 9, 2013 18:47:28 GMT
There should always be Guards on trains - who else is going to make the driver's tea? Remember the good old days when the Guard would make the tea and hand the can to the driver. The tea would brew by the time the driver had changed ends and got in the cab. He would take out what he wanted, then stop short at the next station and leave the can out on the platform at the Guard's end for when the Guard opened the doors. No Guards and the free drinks machines for the drivers finally did away with the tea cans. One of the Service Operators [Signaller] at one of the Train Crew Depots on the Met line still makes the Tea for the drivers
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Mar 23, 2013 20:47:59 GMT
Post by keithys on Mar 23, 2013 20:47:59 GMT
I am so glad the company did not dispense with Guards, otherwise i would be a burden to the welfare state. Oh the only tea i make is for myself! You will also note that not only did the tea can become redundant but also the tea pot in the messrooms. No one seems to make a proper cup of brew anymore.
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Mar 25, 2013 14:22:02 GMT
Post by fitztightly on Mar 25, 2013 14:22:02 GMT
Now my old Guard - Ron Shuttle his name was - fantastic bloke. By the time I'd shut down, changed the lights and taken my keys out, he was there, faithful to the last with a cup of tea and a lit fag. He was the absolute epitome of a good guard. It was such a shame to see others that couldn't be bothered and just shut their door the minute they'd given the bell. Fuelled the case to get rid of them IMHO, although they would have gone in the end anyway.
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