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Post by hellocontrol on Feb 24, 2014 17:02:50 GMT
I know not everyone likes the C stock but it can not be that long before they stop running, is there a date yet?
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Post by mrhappy on Feb 26, 2014 13:25:55 GMT
I spent two years in Hammersmith depot as a driver/shunter. Training the depot staff how to shunt. The only good thing I remember about them was the ability for two shunters to push a unit around the depot. Because of the very bad layout of the depot, it was often easier to push a unit than drive it! Last I heard, young Paul Bloomfield was the manager dealing with new stock and getting rid of old stock. He seems to spend most days now surrounded by floods and trapped on south west trains. lol
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Post by hellocontrol on Feb 27, 2014 8:33:44 GMT
I spent two years in Hammersmith depot as a driver/shunter. Training the depot staff how to shunt. The only good thing I remember about them was the ability for two shunters to push a unit around the depot. Because of the very bad layout of the depot, it was often easier to push a unit than drive it! Last I heard, young Paul Bloomfield was the manager dealing with new stock and getting rid of old stock. He seems to spend most days now surrounded by floods and trapped on south west trains. lol You must remember Keating he was at Hammersmith, I did a spell there before going to Baker Street oh happy days. |
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Post by mrhappy on Feb 27, 2014 14:51:26 GMT
Keating doesnt ring a bell, but then most had a nickname. Mine was Mr Happy when I took over running the social club. Before then it was young Whitey. Baker Street was a dump. Although the canteen wasnt too bad.
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Post by railtechnician on Feb 27, 2014 17:16:39 GMT
I recall a running SM at Baker Street who was the bane of my life circa 1980, I think his name was Bayliss but I could well be wrong about that. I was installing comms trunking and cabling along the accommodation block outside wall to the platform 5 CER next to the entance to the running office complex. Every morning my staff would erect a tower platform and he'd come out of the office and tell me to take it down again until the morning peak was over!
In those days I recall the train staff mess room further along towards platform 2 being packed with spare crews most weekdays.
I spent a lot of time at Baker Street, I installed all the original cameras on platforms 1 to 6 as well as the OPO monitors and PA systems. Some years later when I returned to the tools from the training division I commissioned the Central Line long line PA system and the ELL PA system in the control complex, thereafter I upgraded all the station-station telephones on platforms 1-6. I had various other works down on the Jubilee and Bakerloo including sumps and pumps cabling. However, I first worked at Baker Street in 1977 on stage 1 Jubilee line resignalling from St John's Wood to Baker Street and I last worked there as a Piccadilly line Technical Officer doing point maintenance on the Jubilee ends of the crossovers to the Bakerloo.
Back in the day Baker Street canteen was known as a 'poker school' venue when it wasn't open to serve food and sometimes while it was serving food too!
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Post by hellocontrol on Feb 27, 2014 19:42:16 GMT
Keating doesnt ring a bell, but then most had a nickname. Mine was Mr Happy when I took over running the social club. Before then it was young Whitey. Baker Street was a dump. Although the canteen wasnt too bad. I think he first name was Dick but I am talking about when the C stock came into service. You must remember Curly Jennings at Hammersmith he liked liquid sandwiches from the local. |
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Post by hellocontrol on Feb 27, 2014 19:43:39 GMT
Keating doesnt ring a bell, but then most had a nickname. Mine was Mr Happy when I took over running the social club. Before then it was young Whitey. Baker Street was a dump. Although the canteen wasnt too bad. I think he first name was Dick but I am talking about when the C stock came into service. You must remember Curly Jennings at Hammersmith he liked liquid sandwiches from the local. Bayless was the group manager a nasty person always caught us drinking cold tea in the PNR room just off platform 9 before the Jubilee opened. |
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Post by railtechnician on Feb 28, 2014 9:09:01 GMT
Bayless was the group manager a nasty person always caught us drinking cold tea in the PNR room just off platform 9 before the Jubilee opened. Oh yeah, now I think about it he was. However, in the mornings he was always in the running office off platform 5, perhaps making everyone's life a misery and not just mine. That said there was an SM in that office, a friendly fellow who I got on with, that didn't like the white soap that station staff were issued. On comms I was issued carbolic soap for my gang once a month as in those days many stations would not have soap in the washrooms. I loved carbolic soap but most of my chaps didn't like it so I used to swap carbolic for white with the SM. I didn't like the white soap myself as it used to dry my hands out terribly, I don't know what it was made from but I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was made from canteen fat and caustic soda. Talking of platform 9 that reminds me that there was a running office down there too at the time, I remember installing a phone in it. I have a hazy recollection of it being off the concourse at the bottom of the escalators and up some stairs. I had forgotten about that but it jogs my memory regarding the SPTs which I routed into the Station Supervisors office in the Met ticket hall where I installed the Telephone Answering Unit and Operators Control panel. I recall my mechanical fitter getting upset when I and my supervisor looked at the shelf he had made for the unit and criticised it for being 'out of true'. It was annoying because he did have a spirit level. That job of course coincided with the Met resignalling at Baker Street and the new IMR in the 'cathedral' beneath platform 2. Prior to that the SPT panel had of course been located in the Met signal cabin. |
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Post by hellocontrol on Feb 28, 2014 11:50:34 GMT
Bayless was the group manager a nasty person always caught us drinking cold tea in the PNR room just off platform 9 before the Jubilee opened. Oh yeah, now I think about it he was. However, in the mornings he was always in the running office off platform 5, perhaps making everyone's life a misery and not just mine. That said there was an SM in that office, a friendly fellow who I got on with, that didn't like the white soap that station staff were issued. On comms I was issued carbolic soap for my gang once a month as in those days many stations would not have soap in the washrooms. I loved carbolic soap but most of my chaps didn't like it so I used to swap carbolic for white with the SM. I didn't like the white soap myself as it used to dry my hands out terribly, I don't know what it was made from but I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was made from canteen fat and caustic soda. Talking of platform 9 that reminds me that there was a running office down there too at the time, I remember installing a phone in it. I have a hazy recollection of it being off the concourse at the bottom of the escalators and up some stairs. I had forgotten about that but it jogs my memory regarding the SPTs which I routed into the Station Supervisors office in the Met ticket hall where I installed the Telephone Answering Unit and Operators Control panel. I recall my mechanical fitter getting upset when I and my supervisor looked at the shelf he had made for the unit and criticised it for being 'out of true'. It was annoying because he did have a spirit level. That job of course coincided with the Met resignalling at Baker Street and the new IMR in the 'cathedral' beneath platform 2. Prior to that the SPT panel had of course been located in the Met signal cabin. Bayless was a real pain the SMs were a different kettle of fish I think the one you are on about was called Tom he went down to the Jubilee later on the original SMs office was by the headwall of platform 9 and you could not swing a cat when the Jubilee opened just along the passage from the escalators that went down to the NB platforms there was a door which took you to the new complex where they was going to put both SMs but the job was amalgamated so there was a spare office telephone panel as well. I remember the resignalling of Baker Street Met I qualified for the cabin before the IMR the old TD drums in the cabin because of all the codes used on the Met made it interesting to say the least. Where they put the IMR like you said was known as the 'cathedral' surprising what can be found in non public areas and after the cabin went we had the SPTs in the Ops room. |
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Post by mrhappy on Feb 28, 2014 14:47:44 GMT
I think he first name was Dick but I am talking about when the C stock came into service. You must remember Curly Jennings at Hammersmith he liked liquid sandwiches from the local. Bayless was the group manager a nasty person always caught us drinking cold tea in the PNR room just off platform 9 before the Jubilee opened. Ah, before my time. Still a driver/instructor on the Central Line when C stock came in. I didnt go to Hammersmith until well after it became one man. Put in for Hammersmith when I moved. So they gave me Acton Town District for 18 months first. Usual cock up at 55. I went there in the end and found a young 16 year old apprentice in charge of the office all on her own! I spent half a day helping her sort out requests for change of line and home depots! She hadnt a clue what depots were where and on what line! |
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Post by hellocontrol on Feb 28, 2014 16:55:03 GMT
Bayless was the group manager a nasty person always caught us drinking cold tea in the PNR room just off platform 9 before the Jubilee opened. Ah, before my time. Still a driver/instructor on the Central Line when C stock came in. I didnt go to Hammersmith until well after it became one man. Put in for Hammersmith when I moved. So they gave me Acton Town District for 18 months first. Usual cock up at 55. I went there in the end and found a young 16 year old apprentice in charge of the office all on her own! I spent half a day helping her sort out requests for change of line and home depots! She hadnt a clue what depots were where and on what line! 55 Broadway tell me about them I phoned in when BR were on strike saying I could not get in said what depot I was at and was then asked what line is that on. |
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Post by railtechnician on Feb 28, 2014 22:38:28 GMT
Oh yeah, now I think about it he was. However, in the mornings he was always in the running office off platform 5, perhaps making everyone's life a misery and not just mine. That said there was an SM in that office, a friendly fellow who I got on with, that didn't like the white soap that station staff were issued. On comms I was issued carbolic soap for my gang once a month as in those days many stations would not have soap in the washrooms. I loved carbolic soap but most of my chaps didn't like it so I used to swap carbolic for white with the SM. I didn't like the white soap myself as it used to dry my hands out terribly, I don't know what it was made from but I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was made from canteen fat and caustic soda. Talking of platform 9 that reminds me that there was a running office down there too at the time, I remember installing a phone in it. I have a hazy recollection of it being off the concourse at the bottom of the escalators and up some stairs. I had forgotten about that but it jogs my memory regarding the SPTs which I routed into the Station Supervisors office in the Met ticket hall where I installed the Telephone Answering Unit and Operators Control panel. I recall my mechanical fitter getting upset when I and my supervisor looked at the shelf he had made for the unit and criticised it for being 'out of true'. It was annoying because he did have a spirit level. That job of course coincided with the Met resignalling at Baker Street and the new IMR in the 'cathedral' beneath platform 2. Prior to that the SPT panel had of course been located in the Met signal cabin. Bayless was a real pain the SMs were a different kettle of fish I think the one you are on about was called Tom he went down to the Jubilee later on the original SMs office was by the headwall of platform 9 and you could not swing a cat when the Jubilee opened just along the passage from the escalators that went down to the NB platforms there was a door which took you to the new complex where they was going to put both SMs but the job was amalgamated so there was a spare office telephone panel as well. I remember the resignalling of Baker Street Met I qualified for the cabin before the IMR the old TD drums in the cabin because of all the codes used on the Met made it interesting to say the least. Where they put the IMR like you said was known as the 'cathedral' surprising what can be found in non public areas and after the cabin went we had the SPTs in the Ops room. Yep as I said that was one of my installations, I called it the Station supervisor office because it was not a purpose built Ops room like those that I installed in temporary ticket hall 'X' at Liverpool Street and King's Cross bull ring after the fire and many of the others where I did specific works such as Paddington, Waterloo, Green Park etc. Most of the Met Ops rooms were afterthoughts in the 1980s apart from Ladbroke Grove which was purpose designed. |
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Post by hellocontrol on Mar 1, 2014 8:33:46 GMT
Bayless was a real pain the SMs were a different kettle of fish I think the one you are on about was called Tom he went down to the Jubilee later on the original SMs office was by the headwall of platform 9 and you could not swing a cat when the Jubilee opened just along the passage from the escalators that went down to the NB platforms there was a door which took you to the new complex where they was going to put both SMs but the job was amalgamated so there was a spare office telephone panel as well. I remember the resignalling of Baker Street Met I qualified for the cabin before the IMR the old TD drums in the cabin because of all the codes used on the Met made it interesting to say the least. Where they put the IMR like you said was known as the 'cathedral' surprising what can be found in non public areas and after the cabin went we had the SPTs in the Ops room. Yep as I said that was one of my installations, I called it the Station supervisor office because it was not a purpose built Ops room like those that I installed in temporary ticket hall 'X' at Liverpool Street and King's Cross bull ring after the fire and many of the others where I did specific works such as Paddington, Waterloo, Green Park etc. Most of the Met Ops rooms were afterthoughts in the 1980s apart from Ladbroke Grove which was purpose designed. I have worked at all those Ops rooms so we must have met in days gone by. I remember when there was some work going on at Baker Street Ops room and I think the guy who was in charge of the Comms team was called Tony, anyway it appeared that they did not have any drawings it was look and find. |
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 1, 2014 9:34:14 GMT
I think Baker Street Met ops room CCTV and PA in the Station Supervisor office was probably done by outside contractors. It was 1981 when I installed the original integrated PA & CCTV and I 'm really struggling to recall where the local PA Station Master Console and CCTV monitors were although my feeling is the Met running office. At the time I was more concerned with the long line aspects i.e. getting watchable images to the control room. Baker Street was a real headache because at that time there was no policy regarding single earthing. Thus we had cameras mounted on signal posts at the north end of plats 1-4, on cast iron segments above plats 5 and 6, on other structures and all were at different earth potentials such that I could read 600v between the earths of two cameras at the switching matrix. In the end on the advice of British Relay (the supplier of much of the CCTV switching equipment) chief engineer Charlie Owers we disconnected all the camera earths to eliminate the horrible hum bars and interference. Back then the controllers CCTV equipment was located in room 17 on level 5 and that reminds me that I also installed the Baker Street canteen alarm system circa 1979/80 as we installed the control unit on the wall behind the rack!
Drawings were always an issue (excuse the pun as they were called such by the design office!) as they were frequently incorrect, indeed the original Baker Street CCTV drawings were incorrect in many respects and I caused quite a stir in high places when I sent in dozens of corrections, the upshot was that for several months afterward my reward for being dilligent in pointing out Drawing Office mistakes was a dressing down from my supervisor and every dirty job going. Those were the days where discipline was more important than anything else of course and I had apparently stepped upon the guv's toes as it was his job to liaise with senior managers! So I soon found myself running longline CCTV transmission and control cables in the inverts at Bond Street, Tottenham Court Road etc and even clock cable in the northbound siding at Elephant & Castle all in traffic hours! It was a valuable lesson and I gained useful experience but I got my own back by transferring to the training division for a little over four years and booking 13 hours travelling time per week working out of South Woodford station car park for the first three years or so.
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Post by hellocontrol on Mar 1, 2014 10:10:50 GMT
I think Baker Street Met ops room CCTV and PA in the Station Supervisor office was probably done by outside contractors. It was 1981 when I installed the original integrated PA & CCTV and I 'm really struggling to recall where the local PA Station Master Console and CCTV monitors were although my feeling is the Met running office. At the time I was more concerned with the long line aspects i.e. getting watchable images to the control room. Baker Street was a real headache because at that time there was no policy regarding single earthing. Thus we had cameras mounted on signal posts at the north end of plats 1-4, on cast iron segments above plats 5 and 6, on other structures and all were at different earth potentials such that I could read 600v between the earths of two cameras at the switching matrix. In the end on the advice of British Relay (the supplier of much of the CCTV switching equipment) chief engineer Charlie Owers we disconnected all the camera earths to eliminate the horrible hum bars and interference. Back then the controllers CCTV equipment was located in room 17 on level 5 and that reminds me that I also installed the Baker Street canteen alarm system circa 1979/80 as we installed the control unit on the wall behind the rack! Drawings were always an issue (excuse the pun as they were called such by the design office!) as they were frequently incorrect, indeed the original Baker Street CCTV drawings were incorrect in many respects and I caused quite a stir in high places when I sent in dozens of corrections, the upshot was that for several months afterward my reward for being dilligent in pointing out Drawing Office mistakes was a dressing down from my supervisor and every dirty job going. Those were the days where discipline was more important than anything else of course and I had apparently stepped upon the guv's toes as it was his job to liaise with senior managers! So I soon found myself running longline CCTV transmission and control cables in the inverts at Bond Street, Tottenham Court Road etc and even clock cable in the northbound siding at Elephant & Castle all in traffic hours! It was a valuable lesson and I gained useful experience but I got my own back by transferring to the training division for a little over four years and booking 13 hours travelling time per week working out of South Woodford station car park for the first three years or so. I know the guys were from S&E but there were outside people being called in for various jobs and most of these had gone to the outside firm. I know they had the contract for the phones on the M4. Baker Street was the second staion to receive station radio Oxford Circus was the first IIRC. I learn't very early on if you are going to report something think ACE. |
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