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Sept 17, 2013 10:00:31 GMT
Post by concerneddriver on Sept 17, 2013 10:00:31 GMT
Hi,
I just found this forum today by chance. I am a Northern Line driver, quite new in comparison to most people here, 7 years and hopefully many more to come.
I was looking for information on the recently published Rule Books. Has anyone read them in detail? Has it been discussed here anywhere? I had a quick look and it seems to me that they have just done a really bad "cut and paste" job leaving lots of relevant info out. For example point to point working Rule Book 5.
Any thoughts?
Cheers!
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Sept 17, 2013 12:25:38 GMT
Post by GentlemanJim on Sept 17, 2013 12:25:38 GMT
Hi, I just found this forum today by chance. I am a Northern Line driver, quite new in comparison to most people here, 7 years and hopefully many more to come. I was looking for information on the recently published Rule Books. Has anyone read them in detail? Has it been discussed here anywhere? I had a quick look and it seems to me that they have just done a really bad "cut and paste" job leaving lots of relevant info out. For example point to point working Rule Book 5. Any thoughts? Cheers! Welcome to the Forum concernedriver. I'm retired Central Line so not very helpful there but we do have our resident Northern Line expert in the way of Nortube, I'm sure once he reads this post he'll be able to help.
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Sept 17, 2013 15:23:06 GMT
Post by Nortube on Sept 17, 2013 15:23:06 GMT
I haven't seen the new version, so I can't comment on them. I must admit that I lost interest in rules and regs when they brought in "the cat sat on the mat" rule books all those years ago that seemed to be aimed at four year olds! Generally, I think that the rule books, mainly changed after KX if I recall, are designed for rear covering so when somebody cocks up, they can be held to blame whether they are or not. Many rules are open to interpretation, so whatever you do is wrong. "Rules are made to be broken" also seems to be the attitude as and when it suits people, by both staff and management alike. In the old days, when the rule book and appendices were the cloth (later card) covered booklets, drivers and guards often carried the relevant ones around with them for easy reference. Now, whilst it might be interesting to sometimes look and see what another grade is supposed to do, the rule book in all its various parts is far too bulky and in the majority of cases goes straight into the locker as locker ballast, without even being opened. Destined to remain there until the next version takes its place or the person leaves the job and their locker is cleared out. "More crap" I think is the common phrase uttered when being told to "sign for this"
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Sept 17, 2013 15:37:34 GMT
Post by Nortube on Sept 17, 2013 15:37:34 GMT
Hi, I just found this forum today by chance. I am a Northern Line driver, quite new in comparison to most people here, 7 years and hopefully many more to come. I was a Guard, Driver, Road Trainer, and later on Ins Op when the grade began, for 36 years. Other than a year as a driver on the Picc in 1978, all that time has been spent on the south end of the Northern line and I thoroughly enjoyed it, until I started getting bored and decided that I could just afford to take early retirement. There's been a lot of changes over the years, but I think the biggest change from a driver's point of view is the introduction of ATP working. The introduction of the 95 stock marked a change, with the loss of Westinghouse brake and very little train equipment being taught. Now that the push button driving is gradually taking over, there are no skills needed and all the interesting things relating to driving will be lost. The driver's job will be even more boring than it is at present. If you can survive boredom on the front, then you may indeed have many years to come
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Sept 20, 2013 15:36:41 GMT
Post by concerneddriver on Sept 20, 2013 15:36:41 GMT
Thank you for welcoming me into the forum I know what you mean Nortube, ATP is not fun at all! and driving in PM (protective manual) is the worst experience you could have as a driver; You have to drive to "target point" looking at the TOD (TO Display) matching the train speed with the target speed, only that the target speed can be very erratic at times and the breaking is quite challenging, particularly when you have to stop between stations as there aren't any stopping marks or signals just the TOD indicating you have to stop XX metres away.
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Sept 22, 2013 12:23:01 GMT
Post by quokka on Sept 22, 2013 12:23:01 GMT
G'day Concerned driver ..........hows it going?
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