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Post by railtechnician on Mar 22, 2013 12:45:21 GMT
Thanks. On investigating the description on the ice site, it appears that the plates etc. are probably from p.112+ Meanwhile, if anybody is interested, I did find this on tunnelling: archive.org/details/tunnelshieldsuse00copprichwhich mentions some of the Underground work downloaded it not not read it yet I have to say that that book is just short of 400 pages of pure gold! There is lots of detailed info about the various London tunnels which until now I have only seen in similar detail in another contemporary publication, 'The Engineer' magazine. 'The Engineer' goes into great detail about the way in which tunnel heading and alignment of the C&SL was done from street level with some neat diagrams. It also has lots of general info about railways, parliamentary powers etc and technical detail about related subjects e.g. the relocation of sewers at Blackfriars station, the building of the Thames Embankment etc, covers all the original London underground railways as well as major engineering projects worldwide. I have downloaded pretty much every available issue of 'The Engineer' over the last year. Volume 1 commences from January 1854 and Volume 41 ends in July 1926. Not all the issues in every volume are available and the odd year is missing as well as some issues being minus several pages but the 70 years of coverage it has to be said are of the golden age of British engineering at a time when Britain exported machinery of all kinds to most countires in the world including Russia and China. So far the 3300 files or thereabouts amounts to almost 50 Gb of download, I still check periodically to see if any more issues or volumes have been added to the online repository. 'The Engineer' of course also carries the early history of the subject closest to my heart from its very beginnings, Telephones and Telegraphs, and in that regard is only one of three massive periodical magazines spanning decades all which I have also downloaded in their entirety. More reading than I will ever get around to but definitely useful reference works to supplement my old fashioned bookshelf based physical library! |
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Post by Nortube on Mar 22, 2013 12:55:00 GMT
Do you have a link for the engineer downloads? I thought I had it but can't find it.
This is really what the internet s for! In the nineties I spent a lot of time traipsing around reference libraries etc. trying to find copies of various things that I could photocopy the articles from. The Engineer was one of them. I think I found it at the Imperial College library where they dug the bound copies up from their archives (I don't know if the library is still open to the public). I agree about the Engineer, a very informative publication and very interesting reading, 100 - 150 years later, of some of the things that we take for granted now that were cutting edge technology then.
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 22, 2013 17:55:10 GMT
Do you have a link for the engineer downloads? I thought I had it but can't find it. This is really what the internet s for! In the nineties I spent a lot of time traipsing around reference libraries etc. trying to find copies of various things that I could photocopy the articles from. The Engineer was one of them. I think I found it at the Imperial College library where they dug the bound copies up from their archives (I don't know if the library is still open to the public). I agree about the Engineer, a very informative publication and very interesting reading, 100 - 150 years later, of some of the things that we take for granted now that were cutting edge technology then. Here you go www.gracesguide.co.uk/Main_PageI have some catching up to do as several more volumes have been added since my last visit to the site including 1863/4/6 which I imagine will have articles on the Met construction and opening. |
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Post by Nortube on Mar 22, 2013 19:29:26 GMT
Thanks. A lot of interesting reading / information there. I'll add the links to the links board.
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Post by Nortube on Mar 23, 2013 0:46:56 GMT
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 23, 2013 4:07:37 GMT
Two totally different books, this one is 87 pages on C&SL, the other book is nearly 400 pages and covers a great deal more than the C&SL. It's a shame they didn't properly copy the fold out in the C&SL book. N evertheless another publication for my growing computer based library. |
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Post by Nortube on Mar 23, 2013 11:50:37 GMT
Sorry, I meant the other one that I'd mentioned before that called: DISCUSSION. THE CITY AND SOUTH LONDON RAILWAY; WITH SOME REMARKS UPON SUBAQUEOUS TUNNELLING BY SHIELD AND COMPRESSED AIR: www.icevirtuallibrary.com/content/article/10.1680/imotp.1896.19660;jsessionid=dal66miq2dphq.x-telford-live-01both that, and the one you've just downloaded have the same title (and I think the same date - 1896), but the first one I skimmed through only seemed recognisable in parts. The page numbers are different and when I had a brief look at one of the page numbers (75) that was the same in both papers, the content was different. The second paper I recognised as soon as I saw it as being the one I had the photocopy of. I'll have to read through both of them and see what the difference is. If they are different papers, it seems strange that they both have the same title. One of the folded plates that didn't get copied was the Engineering diagram. I see that this is available on Wiki: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/City_and_South_London_Railway_Engineering_Drawing.jpgAn interesting diagram. I assume that it is to scale and accurate. |
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