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Post by railtechnician on Jun 27, 2015 19:56:09 GMT
I simply think that Westinghouse liked to designate frame types alphabetically, I am aware that there were Westinghouse L and M frames used on NR and I expect other designations were perhaps used in other parts of the world. Westinghouse used letter designations on DC relays, LT/LU had/has Westinghouse style B, C, D, F and Q relays, there may have been others but those are the common types that I encountered on clock, tunnel telephone and double cut signal circuitry. AC time relays were/are styles 'LT' and 'N'Similarly Westinghouse delta units were/are lettered according to type A, B, C, D etc There was an L frame on LT at Wembley Park. The only comparison I can do at the moment is that in America they have alphabet agencies, CIA/FBI/NSA. I don't recall the old Wembley Park frame, I can only remember the pushbutton desk that the signalman used to control it. Of course the modern V style frame was/is the only 6 position frame on LUL, the supervisor that was in charge of wiring that was a former apprentice and later a colleague when I was in the training division. I spent a lot of time on the Wembley Park job as comms chargehand installing and commissioning the new stick phones at the time and routing various essential comms circuits through the signals databus all sites to Stanmore. I worked on all those resignalling jobs doing the comms at Baker Street (Met), Finchley Road, Willesden Green, Neasden, Uxbridge and Stanmore and the stations in between. As a Picc Line signal TO my maintenance duties included the frames at Baker St (Jub/Bak), Finchley Road, Willesden Green, Neasden, Wembley Park and Stanmore.
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Post by hellocontrol on Jun 28, 2015 5:17:36 GMT
RT, When the area was controlled by the push button desk the frame was next door, that was the old frame which was shortened and re-locked and then called an N frame. When they commissioned the IMR it was still controlled by the push button desk until Baker Street took over. Found this photo link
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Post by railtechnician on Jun 28, 2015 15:00:31 GMT
RT, When the area was controlled by the push button desk the frame was next door, that was the old frame which was shortened and re-locked and then called an N frame. When they commissioned the IMR it was still controlled by the push button desk until Baker Street took over. Found this photo linkYep I never saw that old WPK frame, the only old frames I recall at the sites I listed were Finchley Road, Baker St (Met), Baker St (Bakerloo). I never had occasion to enter any of the other old cabins. Other frames that I saw in the course of my signal & comms installation and maintenance work were all the Picc IMRs, all Jubilee IMRs (Charing X to Stanmore), Bethnal Green SC, Liverpool St (Central) SC, Liverpool St (Met) IMR, Moorgate IMR, Edgware Rd SC, Woodford SC, Rayners Lane SC & IMR, Harrow-on-the-Hill SC, South Woodford (decommissioned) SC, Leyton (LT & GER) SCs, Queensway SC, Barbican IMR, Farringdon IMR, Queen's Pk SC, Stonebridge Park NR SC, Wood Green SC, Arnos Grove SC, Oakwood SC, Cockfosters SC, Whitechapel (DR) SC, Uxbridge IMR, Piccadilly Circus SC, Hammersmith (DR) IMR, Seven Sisters IMR, Victoria IMR, Chalfont & Latimer IMR, Rickmansworth SC, Amersham IMR, Earls Ct IMR, Ealing Broadway IMR, Edgware IMR, Golders Green North IMR, Elephant & Castle SC, Euston IMR, Finchley Rd IMR, Brixton IMR, Finsbury Pk IMR, Barking IMR, Leytonstone SC, Mansion House IMR, Northwood IMR, Paddington (Bakerloo) IMR. There were others I'm sure but I cannot now recall which after so many years in retirement and before that so many years working all over the 'combine'.
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Post by hellocontrol on Jun 28, 2015 17:20:25 GMT
Now you are going to say you have photos of them all, if only.
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Post by railtechnician on Jun 29, 2015 0:39:20 GMT
Now you are going to say you have photos of them all, if only. Unfortunately not, most of the time I was far too busy working to find the time to take photos and of course in the early years it would've been a cardinal sin to bring a camera to work and photograph anything while working. It was not until the late 1980s when I began having to take pictures to accompany various survey works that I got into photography but even then I brought the camera to work only occasionally. Most of my photos are of the massive cable diversion works that I undertook at Tottenham Court Road as part of the Central Line resignalling enabling works circa 1991 and of the big clean up job that I did in Earls Court Control Room in 2004 with a splattering of pics from around the job on various works. Funnily enough I do somewhere have a picture of the frame at Waterloo IMR (one of the sites I forgot in my list) after the late 1980s resignalling. I haven't looked at my photos since I retired but I probably have pictures of some of the Picc IMR frames and possibly some of the Met/Jub ones but I really can't recall. A lot of my odd pictures were of comms equipment which I used to use when running comms training courses.
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Post by hellocontrol on Jul 4, 2015 9:08:35 GMT
I used to have a camera with me at all times and took many photos, the funnest one I took was I had left Stanmore with a train at the home signal whose driver wanted a cup of tea but he did not have his own tea can, so when I left I stopped opposite and gave him a cup and then took the photo. I was always taking them going along when I knew who would be going the opposite way again caught some classic ones.
When I left the trains wherever I worked I would take photos and if there was a one under but that never happened thankfully.
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