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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2013 23:11:22 GMT
Wrong Signal Lowered and Accepted....ooops |
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2013 23:11:52 GMT
And the rest Attachments:
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Post by janetfromthanet on Mar 20, 2013 0:41:51 GMT
Wrong Signal Lowered and Accepted....ooops this is the same head shunt at Ramsgate that a slam door smashed through years back and resulted in the leading coach overhanging a very long drop to the ground Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 2:57:56 GMT
I don't think these photos should be published until the enquirery has been completed so please remove this.
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Post by GentlemanJim on Mar 20, 2013 9:54:58 GMT
As per the guidance of our rules: These pictures show the end result of a train in contact with buffers, no assumptions have been made as to the cause or who is to blame, no names or dates have been mentioned that's for an official enquiry to sort out. The contributor has stayed within the rules.
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Post by liverpoollou on Mar 20, 2013 11:28:18 GMT
I don't think these photos should be published until the enquirery has been completed, there is enough out there already for the papers to pick on us with so please remove this. I can't see what the problem is here! If the pictures were posted with a graphic description, naming names and so on then there migt be cause for concern. One has only to trawl through the www. daily news and find things far worse than this being reported by our free and very speculative press. How many times do we see and read things whereby the press make huge blunders in there reporting and do they wait for an official enquiry, I think not. |
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Post by Ben on Mar 20, 2013 12:23:50 GMT
Compared to the javlin, the slam door *looks* to have fared rather better!
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Post by High Dyke on Apr 22, 2013 18:46:43 GMT
Oops!
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Post by railtechnician on Apr 22, 2013 23:29:50 GMT
I don't think these photos should be published until the enquirery has been completed so please remove this. Why? The images are uncommented, suggesting they should not be seen is unwarranted politically correct censorship which should have no place here or anywhere else for that matter! While speculation may be disliked it is human to think, have an opinion and comment in a free society, unfortunately we live in a 'democracy' which thanks to those who think it is wrong to have an opinion is in many ways erring on becoming something more akin to a police state. I have no time for political correctness and I don't expect to see it exercised in this place, having said that I equally dislike media hype and reckless speculation. Like it or not there is never such a thing as a no fault incident, someone or something is always at fault if one looks at an occurrence in detail. There is a great deal of difference between reasoned speculation and the apportionment of blame, it is wrong to try and obscure the latter with the former just as it is wrong to determine the latter without a detailed examination of all the facts with respect to the circumstances of the occasion of the event. Thus while you are entitled to your thought my thought is that your thought is an unreasonable one for the very valid reasons given above. It is wrong to attempt to stifle comment which has yet to be made and I would say the same whether you were in any way involved in the incident or not. Now I will make comment on the images. I do not know the area in which the incident occurred but I do know of other NR areas which have a similar layout in terms of the proximity of buffer stops to the surrounding areas. I would suggest that from a H&S hazard mitigation viewpoint all such areas should have been assessed and appropriately signalled to properly control approach to the buffers long ago. There is no doubt whatsoever in my opinion that 100% collision mitigation would NOT have been a target in such a location even though local residents would no doubt have believed it to be warranted. Thus I would expect that there is room for human error on the part of both the signal operator and train driver to have been causal factors in this particular incident. That is not to say that either is to blame as without detailed knowledge of the area, the rolling stock, the signalling, the weather, surrounding events at the time and other material facts it is impossible to speculate further. |
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Post by class345 on Apr 23, 2013 20:20:34 GMT
IMO the buffers did the job they were designed to do, doesn't look like the street below was at risk at all.
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